why do snape and lily have the same patronus
Snape's Patronus was the same as Lily's because he was in love with her. A wizard's (or witch's) Patronus can change shape to match the Patronus of someone they're truly in love with. The feeling of love does not have to be mutual for the Patronus to change shape. As revealed in Snape's memories during
Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, he was in love with Lily since they were young children, before they even started Hogwarts. ÁSeverus Snape wasnÁt yours,Á said Harry. ÁSnape was DumbledoreÁs, DumbledoreÁs from the moment you started hunting down my mother. And you never realised it, because of the thing you canÁt understand. You never saw Snape cast a Patronus, did you, Riddle? Á Voldemort did not answer. They continued to circle each other like wolves about to tear each other apart. ÁSnapeÁs Patronus was a doe,Á said Harry, Áthe same as my motherÁs, because he loved her for nearly all of his life, from the time when they were children. You should have realised,Á he said, as he saw VoldemortÁs nostrils flare, Áhe asked you to spare her life, didnÁt he? Á The same thing happened to Tonks when she fell in love with Remus Lupin and he didn't seem to be returning her feelings. Not knowing he was the reason for it, Harry asked Lupin why someone's Patronus could change. ÁHe was, however, reminded of a question he had with regard to Tonks, and who better to ask than Lupin, the man who knew all about Patronuses? ÁTonksÁs Patronus has changed its form,Á he told him. ÁSnape said so, anyway. I didnÁt know that could happen. Why would your Patronus change?
Á Lupin took his time chewing his turkey and swallowing before saying slowly, ÁSometimes Á a great shock Á an emotional upheaval ÁÁ ÁIt looked big, and it had four legs,Á said Harry, struck by a sudden thought and lowering his voice. ÁHey Á it couldnÁt be Á? Á - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 16 (A Very Frosty Christmas) He later learned the reason, when witnessing a conversation between the two: ÁYou see! Á said a strained voice. Tonks was glaring at Lupin. ÁShe still wants to marry him, even though heÁs been bitten! She doesnÁt care! Á ÁItÁs different,Á said Lupin, barely moving his lips and looking suddenly tense. ÁBill will not be a full werewolf. The cases are completely ÁÁ ÁBut I donÁt care either, I donÁt care! Á said Tonks, seizing the front of LupinÁs robes and shaking them. ÁIÁve told you a million times ÁÁ And the meaning of TonksÁs Patronus and her mouse-coloured hair, and the reason she had come running to find Dumbledore when she had heard a rumour someone had been attacked by Greyback, all suddenly became clear to Harry; it had not been Sirius that Tonks had fallen in love with after all Á ÁAnd IÁve told you a million times,Á said Lupin, refusing to meet her eyes, staring at the floor, Áthat I am too old for you, too poor Á too dangerous ÁÁ ÁIÁve said all along youÁre taking a ridiculous line on this, Remus,Á said Mrs Weasley over FleurÁs shoulder as she patted her on the back. ÁI am not being ridiculous,Á said Lupin steadily.
ÁTonks deserves somebody young and whole. Á - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Chapter 29 (The Phoenix Lament) hum. Well consider that Snape is showing Dumbledore his patronus and Dumbledore s question suggests he is surprised by it. So you do have a point that we don t have a 100% on it being like Lily s; however I think there is enough info to give us a good 98%. The only way I d agree that it s a in memorial of her is if JKR came out and contradicted herself and said well it s not her patronus because in comments about it and in story we re told it is like Lily s. We have had JKR suggest that in a question regarding Lily/James patronus that one of their patronus changed to match the mate. We know that James as a teenager was already a stag. So he seemingly would have already had the stag patronus or link before Lily. So from how the author answered one would assume Lily s changed. Or, James/Lily was always meant to be together and it s just coincidence they have the same animal, but it makes you wonder why JKR would answer the question about James Lily patronus if Lily s patronus wasn t or didn t become a doe. Plus we also have Harry feeling a connection to the doe the first time he sees it; very oddly. Like more than just average seeing a patronus. He sort of implies he s been waiting for it forever or at least on some level the way it reads he feels a connection. I have considered that there is more to Snape s patronus than just he loved Lily so it s him; I ve always wondered due to his regret and pain if magic didn t offer him a connection.
But, my whole idea weighs heavily on when Snape would have gotten this patronus. I feel like he only gained it after Lily died. But going back to DD s comment, Dumbledore seems surprised Snape has this patronus, after all this time. So I m unsure if Dumbledore knew before or is this possibly the first time he has really seen Snape s patronus. I think I read on pottermore that a wizard can choose if his patronus takes full form or not. So if Snape used a patronus if he were skilled enough he could hide that it was a doe - if the info from pottermore is correct. One think I wonder on Dumbledore is why is he surprised by Snape s patronus? We know Dumbledore knows the reason why Snape changed sides, but apparently he has doubted Snape s motives for years. or has Dumbledore assumed Snape moved on? Dumbledore has depended on Snape s changing of sides but apparently not the motive? So either Dumbledore believe Snape s motives were questionable or had no idea of Snape s private paint/regret. Snape s patronus is unusually powerful and seems to have a life of it s own; as in how it affects Harry, him feeling a connection. Maybe on some level Dumbledore doesn t really understand it, considering his weird attraction to Grindelwald. I mean I have often wondered about Dumbledore and his dark past and his understanding of love, even as much as I wonder about Snape s. However getting back on topic, I think it s safe to assume by the info and what we get from the author that Lily s patronus was a doe. It s possible Snape saw it at some point, so it s conceivable it left an impression on him.
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